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ThugsRook

Descent 1 has the walls, it just wasnt used very much. (Level10)

switches were a nice addition to D2, but they are wayyyyyy overused.

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so what you're saying is that there is no such thing as evolution, only mutation ~ i agree

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it certainly looks better then playing it on a SEGA 32X

well done

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no its not rehashed Vertigo levels, Maximum is completely different.

go play the campaign and youll see how my explaination makes sense ~ mostly very small simple fun levels to blast thru. crank up the difficulty

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its not the same, you might not even be able to tell they are similar until youve become familiar with both campaigns. the D2 Maximum explaination... D2 was much too difficult to play on a PSX with a PSX controller. the levels needed to be smaller and remain on a 2D plane way more often. Dan Wentz ...

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i always thought of it as:

the bots made the mines, the bots are insane.
later levels are only more detailed because the bots had more time.

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^ the AWE64 uses the GM35REVC.SF2 (3.5mb) soundfont. its a very early version of what is now 4GMGSMT.SF2 (4mb), so they might sound similar but not exact. some songs however dont sound very similar. the AWE32's 1MGM.SF2 is drasticly different due to only being 1mb. the Ensoniq (8mb) pack is ...

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MegaDescent wrote:Covering original games only:
D2 changes: Go with maps like Maximum instead except perhaps expanded slightly. Shorter levels and more texture semi-freedom go a long way here. Vertigo like would definitely have been better too though.

actually, Maximum was made from the Vertigo levels. (mostly)

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^ DXA Addons only work with Rebirth.
no config needed, just place the DXA file into your Descent or Descent 2 folders.

if you just want to listen to the files...
rename the .DXA to .ZIP and unpack.

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^ actually i think its nothing more then a planet texture and a moon hanging in the background, thats it. ive got the escape sequences for Zeta Aquilea packed into a DXA addon file for Rebirth, they work perfectly. if someone knows how and is interested in completing the other 5 planets textures ill ...

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im not sure what youve recorded but its always good to have more :) and btw, hardware rendered midi soundtracks... AWE32 http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/frm/index.php/topic,1642.0.html AWE64 http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/frm/index.php/topic,1886.0.html Ensoniq PCI http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/frm/index.php ...

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Also add the option to have in-game animated level exiting sequences like in D1 and the Interactive Demo, but that would require some graphics work (Quartzon and Baloris Prime would be particularly hard I think) this can already be done, escape sequences for Zeta Aquilae already exist from the demo ...

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MegaDescent wrote:I would think no-brainer but also bet ThugsRook is going to pick D1.

you are becoming annoying very quickly.

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^ D2 is not D1.
the bots are not the same. just play D1 in D2 and the difference is clear... D1 isnt exactly D1 in D2. the entire balance is different. (not to mention the bosses are nerfed)

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...just open the d2x.mn2 file, and delete the ' z' before 'name'. That is, convert " zname = Descent 2: Vertigo " to " name = Descent 2: Vertigo ". this does work in DOS Descent 2 also. you can have both versions of Vertigo at the same time so you dont have to constantly edit... copy d2x.hog & d2x ...

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we are talking about the originals. youre new, so you cant possibly have the same perspective as us oldtimers that have been playing since the shareware versions. revitalizes? you just started! :lol: this is how i feel about Counterstrike... http://www.descentbb.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20470 ;)

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First Strike > Maximum > Vertigo > Counterstrike i dont actually like D2 as much as i love D1. everything that makes D1 great... isnt in D2. Wrong. D2 has far more good custom missions to blast through. :) are you really gonna fanboi defend D2 in your own thread? there is no need, this is a Descent ...

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First Strike > Maximum > Vertigo > Counterstrike

i dont actually like D2 as much as i love D1. everything that makes D1 great... isnt in D2.

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yea, thats been broken for a long time

( works in 1.0 )

just get above the thing, reverse the fan switch, and shoot it down til it hits the fan.

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never update.

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still the same old Lobber

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^ much better

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7 Minutes!? You're insane! no, he was on ACE ;) how about 55 seconds :P http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd164/ThugsRook/Descent/th_L1ACE.jpg I'll see your 55 on ace and raise you to 32 on insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTPnPV7X6s0 Sorry, Duper, I saw a challenge so I accepted. you ...

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LightWolf wrote:7 Minutes!? You're insane!

no, he was on ACE

how about 55 seconds

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needs cockpit mode
needs music
you joystick players fly so oddly

wouldnt this be better suited for DEMOs?
insted of all the vid capturing and uploading to YT?
(then we can view with cockpit and music too)

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the only hard D1 levels are the few levels where youd run out of energy/weapons before finding/getting to an e-center. beyond that the balance is fine.

just porting D1 into D2 makes it easier, except for the secret levels.

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/77082565/desc1_5.zip NT's level 16. Please download and offer your feedback. sorry im not a part of this project, but i dont make levels :( custom graphics (pogs) YES ~ levels NO. LMK if you want anything custom ~ new plasma balls, smoke trailed mercs, mega ...

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i can tell who's black and who's not just by reading this thread.

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^ in that case you could use an older version to get your reactors done.

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^ since DMB2 couldnt do D1 reactors, id say it would be a feature request not a bug.

then again... a GOOD d1 to d2 texture conversion would be nice too!

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glad you got that straightened out

yea, DTX is a much better HOG manager/importer then DLE.

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if the editor (DLE-XP?) cant insert D1 reactors, i would most certainly request it.

check the D2 DEMO for exit sequences, they should be able work.
D2XR can do exit sequences when playing D1's HOG/PIG.

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you know, hundreds have been down this road youre about to travel.
none have returned

i have D1 reactors in my D1-D2 conversion, but those were converted using the original Devil editor a long time ago. not sure what can do it these days, DMB2 couldnt.

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what program are you using to swap palettes? and import?
you should be using DTX/DTX2.
transparency is a certain color for each palette. (usually a purple shade)

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would make for a great waiter, and pizza delivery.

this tech will only be used for harm tho.
skynet here we come.

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file and format have been updated! insted of it being a "HOG MOD", i was able to convert it into a simple D2X-R Add-On Pack. all the cinematics and stuff still all work perfectly. an interesting way of using the Add-On feature for sure :D thx goes to... Ryusei117 for renaming the levels. Jeff250 for ...

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what you need to realize is that every US citizen is a $750,000 asset. we are used as collateral. of course they want more of us.

the fed has outlived its usefulness.

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REPORT: rebels are removing babies from their incubaters!

hey remember that load of chit?

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Xfing wrote:This would be useful to get a score registered after the end of the game.

this sparked an idea in me.
...i can make new DESCENT2.HOG files just to keep high scores.

Xfing: have you suggested the hi-scores thing to Zico yet?

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gullible would be if you actually believed they went to the moon

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