What goes around...

Top Gun · Post by **Top Gun** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:50 pm

Something interesting: the same federal appeals court in California that declared the Pledge of Allegiance an unconstitutional government endorsement of religion is itself being sued for allegedly having a representation of the Ten Commandments in its seal. The term "hypocritical" might come to mind.

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Testiculese · Post by **Testiculese** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:21 pm

I doubt they had any idea. You think any of those old fogies ever looked at the seal?

Lothar · Post by **Lothar** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:39 pm

LOL... 'course, knowing them, they may very well just get rid of the seal.

Secular fundamentalists at war with churchianity. Film at 11.

bash · Post by **bash** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:11 pm

Heh@churchianity.

Krom · Post by **Krom** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:51 pm

It is not freedom of religion, it is freedom from religion.

Will Robinson · Post by **Will Robinson** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:58 pm

Krom wrote:It is not freedom of religion, it is freedom from religion.

It was supposed to be freedom from state controlled religion not a guaranteed absence of any mention of religion. Just look at all the references to religion the authors of that document included in previous and subsequent documents....

Foil · Post by **Foil** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:26 pm

Will Robinson wrote:
Krom wrote:It is not freedom of religion, it is freedom from religion.
It was supposed to be freedom from state controlled religion not a guaranteed absence of any mention of religion. Just look at all the references to religion the authors of that document included in previous and subsequent documents....

Playing "devil's advocate" a bit here:

Not only freedom from state-controlled religion, but also state-mandated/supported religion. If the seal representing that particular office has a symbol of a particular religion, at the very least it can be construed as support for that religion.

(Not that I think a symbol on a seal should be changed, given its historical significance. A city near me was sued about a cross on its seal, and the resulting legal battle and media frenzy was pretty ridiculous.)

Avder · Post by **Avder** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:09 pm

The first ammendments religion clause also applies only to congress....Oh well.