Spiders!

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:55 pm

Kiran wrote:Isn't he such a sweet man? (sometimes )

TIGERassault · Post by **TIGERassault** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:01 am

Kiran wrote:Men can be such wonderful people when a girl needs them

Which is highly ironic, because you should be scared more of men than of spiders!

Strife · Post by **Strife** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:58 am

I hate spiders... I always had a problem with them. But it got multiplied 100 fold when I was a freshman in high school. I used to be that kid that would always eat candy and stuff... well my friends knew this... They crammed 2 wolf spiders in an altiods mint box and then offered me one of those delicious mints.... I took the box... opened it... and screamed like a girl as they scurried out onto my hands and started climbing my arm. I continued screaming like a girl as I ran down the freshman hallway... through the main forier... then out the front door. I hate spiders.

Kiran · Post by **Kiran** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:48 am

TIGERassault wrote:
Kiran wrote:Men can be such wonderful people when a girl needs them
Which is highly ironic, because you should be scared more of men than of spiders!

You're right... SOME men can be wonderful

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:24 am

Strife, you need to meet Roid's cat.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:29 pm

TIGERassault wrote:
Kiran wrote:Men can be such wonderful people when a girl needs them
Which is highly ironic, because you should be scared more of men than of spiders!

heh! It occurs to me that most men are more afraid of women than spider!

Warlock · Post by **Warlock** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:40 pm

we got thoes and another type around here must be a swarm of them

Only spider i hate is the damn black widdow all because i got bit by one :\\

woodchip · Post by **woodchip** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:41 pm

Warlock wrote: Only spider i hate is the damn black widdow all because i got bit by one :\\

You'd best fear the Brown Recluse more.

MD-2389 · Post by **MD-2389** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:51 pm

woodchip wrote:
Warlock wrote: Only spider i hate is the damn black widdow all because i got bit by one :\\

You'd best fear the Brown Recluse more.

Agreed. Brown recluse venom is necrotic. Black widow will just hurt for a little bit. About 12 years ago, my mother was bit by a brown recluse on her right leg. She didn't notice it until later that night when suddenly she could not use her right leg at all due to the immense pain from the bite. I had to physically hold her up on her right side while she hopped with her left leg to wherever she had to go. Needless to say, she saw a doctor the next day.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:43 pm

um MD, Black Widow venom will KILL you. It induces paralysis.

They used to use their webbing for crosshairs in rifles scopes, but when they got out of their cages (glass boxes) they evacuated the plant, and brought in exterminators pronto! ....and started looking for new ways of making fine cross hairs.

Wurby · Post by **Wurby** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:53 pm

Warlock wrote: Only spider i hate is the damn black widdow all because i got bit by one :\\

Heh youd hate our home we have a pet Black Widdow its name is liberty! its in a glass jar I've scared a few Girls with it pretty fun

P.S. my brothers been bitten 8 times by black widdows he is now immune

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:55 pm

Duper wrote:It occurs to me that most men are more afraid of women than spider!

And they SHOULD be!, for so very many reasons.

Duper wrote:Black Widow venom will KILL you. It induces paralysis.

Better to say it CAN kill you, but VERY seldom does.

From the "spider myths" site:

Fact: There is no spider species anywhere that can properly be called "deadly." Obviously, a few people have died from spider venom, but I know of no species anywhere on earth capable of causing death in humans in as much as 10% of cases, even if untreated. If the person bitten obtains medical aid, death from genuine spider bite ("mystery bites" falsely blamed on spiders don't count) is almost unknown in North America and a decided rarity worldwide. See the next section for a more detailed account of Australian and Brazilian spiders. "Deadly" spiders that can incapacitate you in minutes? Only in the movies!

For a further example from a spider much deadlier than the black widow:

Atrax robustus, the Sydney Funnelweb Spider, is often publicized as the "world's deadliest." Authentic medical information (click here for details) suggests otherwise. There have been no deaths (out of 30-40 bites per year) since antivenom was introduced in 1980. During the 53 year period 1927-1979 there were 13 or 14 known deaths, which would be a death rate of under 1%! Although one child died in 15 minutes, adult fatalities typically took 2-3 days. 90% of Atrax bites are judged not serious enough to need antivenom.

Duper · Post by **Duper** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:31 pm

black widow venom isn't instantaneously deadly, but you best not ignore a bite.

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:07 pm

Duper wrote:but you best not ignore a bite.

Oh! I absolutely agree! And, if I got bitten, I'd be at the hospital just as quickly as possible.

BUT, I'd also take comfort in the fact that prior to the development of antivenom, 5% of reported bites resulted in fatalities <link>

and modern fatalities from widow bites occur in less than 1 percent of all people bitten. <link>

Kiran · Post by **Kiran** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:21 am

Doesn't it also depend on where you receive the bite? If it's in the lower part of the body, it takes longer for the paralysis from the venom to reach the critical areas like the lungs and the heart, right?

Kilarin · Post by **Kilarin** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:05 am

Kiran wrote:Doesn't it also depend on where you receive the bite? If it's in the lower part of the body, it takes longer for the paralysis from the venom to reach the critical areas like the lungs and the heart, right?

I can't find a link to back this up, but it makes enough sense that I'll buy it anyway.

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